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	<description>Tracking Identity</description>
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		<title>By: In Context &#187; Life before you have a selector</title>
		<link>http://itickr.com/?p=119&#038;cpage=1#comment-2229</link>
		<dc:creator>In Context &#187; Life before you have a selector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 00:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an OpenID NASCAR (NASCAR) like this (courtesy of JanRain&#8217;s very cool [...]</description>
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		<title>By: itickr.com &#187; OpenID Nascarization</title>
		<link>http://itickr.com/?p=119&#038;cpage=1#comment-1449</link>
		<dc:creator>itickr.com &#187; OpenID Nascarization</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] raised the issue of Nascarization more than an year ago . There should be one OpenID button. Not two. Not three. Else it&#8217;s not scalable for the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] raised the issue of Nascarization more than an year ago . There should be one OpenID button. Not two. Not three. Else it&#8217;s not scalable for the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Who is Hahleq : No true identity, Open or otherwise, in sight</title>
		<link>http://itickr.com/?p=119&#038;cpage=1#comment-1127</link>
		<dc:creator>Who is Hahleq : No true identity, Open or otherwise, in sight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 20:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Wow! about 5 minutes after initially posting this, I ran across this blog entry by Ashish Jain.  Great stuff and cuts to the heart of my point.  Also very troubling as Ashish is [...]</description>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
		<link>http://itickr.com/?p=119&#038;cpage=1#comment-1062</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>could not leave openid authenticated comment. On SignOn.com, could not get UI to recognize my cardspace card (on vista buseinss SP1).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>could not leave openid authenticated comment. On SignOn.com, could not get UI to recognize my cardspace card (on vista buseinss SP1).</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Osborn &#187; Blog Archive &#187; One Button to Rule them all.</title>
		<link>http://itickr.com/?p=119&#038;cpage=1#comment-986</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Osborn &#187; Blog Archive &#187; One Button to Rule them all.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have been quite a bit of talk about the current state of OpenID login screens that are becoming cluttered with [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ashish Jain</title>
		<link>http://itickr.com/?p=119&#038;cpage=1#comment-983</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashish Jain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan, 
The issues that you have raised  in your referenced blog post are more around CardSpace. I agree with your perspective (listed my own at http://itickr.com/?p=82).
However, I believe that the issues with CardSpace are mainly implementation specific. However, the issues   around OpenID are more foundational.
Thanks,
- Ashish</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan,<br />
The issues that you have raised  in your referenced blog post are more around CardSpace. I agree with your perspective (listed my own at <a href="http://itickr.com/?p=82)" rel="nofollow">http://itickr.com/?p=82)</a>.<br />
However, I believe that the issues with CardSpace are mainly implementation specific. However, the issues   around OpenID are more foundational.<br />
Thanks,<br />
- Ashish</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Janssen</title>
		<link>http://itickr.com/?p=119&#038;cpage=1#comment-982</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Janssen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 20:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ashish, I just finished a 3 part blog post at http://drstarcat.com that ended with a discussion of the UI (http://drstarcat.com/archives/30).  Very good questions you raise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ashish, I just finished a 3 part blog post at <a href="http://drstarcat.com" rel="nofollow">http://drstarcat.com</a> that ended with a discussion of the UI (<a href="http://drstarcat.com/archives/30)" rel="nofollow">http://drstarcat.com/archives/30)</a>.  Very good questions you raise.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashish Jain</title>
		<link>http://itickr.com/?p=119&#038;cpage=1#comment-959</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashish Jain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 02:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahleq, 
Security and Convenience don&#039;t go very well together. I would imagine that soon OpenID will come to a resting state where it finds the most adoption and then focus on that need.
- Ashish</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahleq,<br />
Security and Convenience don&#8217;t go very well together. I would imagine that soon OpenID will come to a resting state where it finds the most adoption and then focus on that need.<br />
- Ashish</p>
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		<title>By: Ashish Jain</title>
		<link>http://itickr.com/?p=119&#038;cpage=1#comment-958</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashish Jain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 02:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter,
I get what you are doing and it&#039;s definitely innovative. I just find it a bit hard to scale from an adoption perspective. Having a client side solution with a service in the cloud for syncing is probably another route to look at.
- Ashish</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter,<br />
I get what you are doing and it&#8217;s definitely innovative. I just find it a bit hard to scale from an adoption perspective. Having a client side solution with a service in the cloud for syncing is probably another route to look at.<br />
- Ashish</p>
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		<title>By: Who Is Hahleq?</title>
		<link>http://itickr.com/?p=119&#038;cpage=1#comment-939</link>
		<dc:creator>Who Is Hahleq?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 02:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post and nice feedback from Peter.  I think I get what ClickPass is doing, but even as an advocate for where OpenID is heading, as a security geek, my conerns remain high.  I have enough problems with OpenID security without it also becoming a &quot;single click&quot;.  I know ease-of-use is a cornerstone of what we are all aiming for, but given the current state of OpenID insecurity, do we really want this level of complete transparency?  I for one, know I do not.

As implemented toay I use OpenID to play around with different feature sets from the various OPs and then only at sites that if compromised, really wouldn&#039;t impact me.  Believe me, I want to use OpenID everywhere and for everything, but until implemented in a manner with real security, as a user, I&#039;m staying on the sideline.

Certainly, the &quot;Nascar-ization&quot; issue and some folks turning their credentials into OpenIDs, but not then accepting other OpenIDs are also a real kick in the shins of progress.  I know that OpenID isn&#039;t intended to be THE complete identity answer, but as I mentioned on my blog today before seeing this, we need something truly useful sooner than later.  By truly useful, I mean something that hits on more of Kim Cameron&#039;s 7 Laws than we&#039;ve gotten today.

On the sideline cheering, but contemplating where to get back in the game,
- Hahleq</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post and nice feedback from Peter.  I think I get what ClickPass is doing, but even as an advocate for where OpenID is heading, as a security geek, my conerns remain high.  I have enough problems with OpenID security without it also becoming a &#8220;single click&#8221;.  I know ease-of-use is a cornerstone of what we are all aiming for, but given the current state of OpenID insecurity, do we really want this level of complete transparency?  I for one, know I do not.</p>
<p>As implemented toay I use OpenID to play around with different feature sets from the various OPs and then only at sites that if compromised, really wouldn&#8217;t impact me.  Believe me, I want to use OpenID everywhere and for everything, but until implemented in a manner with real security, as a user, I&#8217;m staying on the sideline.</p>
<p>Certainly, the &#8220;Nascar-ization&#8221; issue and some folks turning their credentials into OpenIDs, but not then accepting other OpenIDs are also a real kick in the shins of progress.  I know that OpenID isn&#8217;t intended to be THE complete identity answer, but as I mentioned on my blog today before seeing this, we need something truly useful sooner than later.  By truly useful, I mean something that hits on more of Kim Cameron&#8217;s 7 Laws than we&#8217;ve gotten today.</p>
<p>On the sideline cheering, but contemplating where to get back in the game,<br />
- Hahleq</p>
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